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More negative library experiences to avoid

So as I apply for more youth services jobs, waiting for the promised greying of the profession to open jobs for me to move into, I read. A lot. A lot a lot. Somewhere around a book book a day, and a few giant stack of picture books a week.

Now, to find these giant stacks of picture books, I’m working off a list generated during library school. The list is down to 211 books right now, but sometimes I’ll read a book, find out it has sequels, and…

Anyhow, for the books that are only at far away libraries, I’ve been making use of ILL. But I’ve created lists using the catalog interface from my local library, and I have them pulled up on my IPad when I’m at the library, checking off books the list as I pull them from the shelves, sitting down with them, sorting them into “like” and “don’t like” piles, and cataloging and tagging all the “like” books into my Shelfari, and then putting them on the “to re-shelve” shelf. Do I feel bad for the teenaged page who has to put them back when I’m done with them? Sure I do. But I’m a taxpaying member of the community, and on top of that I’m a librarian and drama educator who will use these books to reach far more children than if one child had read them.

I’d also like to note that the chapter book reading habit, as well as my drama education, storytelling, and private storytime careers mean that I check out somewhere between 15 and 20 items a week. The women at circulation LOVE me, despite how much work I generate for them, since checking out books is what they’re paid to do, and at least I give great recommendations and conversation while they do it. They all are rooting for me to get a job.

While I was somewhere into book 60, perhaps 70, I overhear a conversation between to women, a librarian and a library associate, both of whom have been both at this library and on this earth a very long time. They’re noticing that the page has brought forward a giant stack of books to be counted and reshelved. They were horrified, wondering if someone had pulled a bunch of books to the floor. I agree: that would suck if that were the case. But when they realize that it’s me, a long time patron of the library, reading through giant stacks of books, they have a conversation at an audible level about what I should do. I would like to note that I do not believe they were being passive aggressive in letting me hear this. I just think that they didn’t care to NOT let me hear it.

They were worried about this destroying their statistics for the day. That was their primary worry. Now, don’t get me started on how asinine it is to take statistics from the picture book section the same way you would from the adult reference collection or the adult fiction collection. All of these need to count books in different ways, since people USE these parts of the library in different ways. I have gone to the library with (borrowed) children, read a big stack of picture books, and checked out none, since we’re READ all the books, or since we were on vacation and didn’t have a library card. Once can read a picture book, like it, and not check it out, since one has already read the book. So…keeping statistics on checkout vs reshelve counts is idiotic and will only generate useless and unflattering numbers. (Also, how many times have you seen a parent let a kid grab 12 random books of the shelves and quickly go and check them out? Does that mean that you have a high quality collection, or does that mean that there were 12 book-shaped objects that might not get read once they get home?)

Anyhow, they were worried about the statistics, so they discussed whether or not to ask me to reshelve the books when I finished reading them. As I said, I feel guilty about generating work for them, but I’m a member of the community using the books for a valid reason, and I’m not being paid to be there. I’m doing professional development, in fact, for a profession that has only COST me money to this point. (SOMEONE PLEASE HIRE ME!) But it is not my job to put books back on shelves, no matter how many or few I take out. I try not to pull books if I don’t have to, but again, I’m a valid patron. They then discussed for a few minutes whether they should discuss this with me.

I’m glad they decided not to. However, this library has been ruined for me for this purpose. I no longer feel welcome there, reading their collection. Which I’m sure will be great for their statistics, but if, say, I took my 15-20 checkouts a week somewhere else, that might NOT be great for their checkout and door counts. I also had to shrink out of there without making eye contact with the woman at the desk, and it ruined my enjoyment of the last 6 books I had to read.

What is this really about, though? It’s about the asinine way we take statistics on collection use, for one thing. That the library would be PUNISHED for my thorough use of the collection is idiotic. But it’s also about the contrast between old-school concepts of librarianship and new ideas. These older women want to keep the books organized on shelves more than they want the books used. Their instinct isn’t that of their former supervisor (who moved on about a month ago), who would call me over after I read a bunch of books and ask me which ones were my favorite, and learn from my work. Their instinct over my years in library school was to find it annoying that I was wasting the time of their supervisor, or at least look annoyed at me whenever I was talking to her, forget who I was repeatedly (I don’t mean my name, but that they forgot I was the one in library school), and not look very friendly to me when I entered the library. I’m not saying that this it was me, specifically, that they aren’t friendly to. They have faces that go that way. They’re the old librarian cliches, the shushers cliche, even though they’ve been taught not to shush.

I snuck out, hoping to not be confronted on my way out. I think I was worked up enough to go into a tirade about how if they want me to not do things like this, they should make good on the promises of the greying of the profession and freaking retire, so that I can have their jobs and not have the time to sit around and read 70 picture books in one sitting. I’m pretty sure I would have said that to their faces, and then gone off on the myriad ways I make their numbers better, and how that way of figuring statistics is idiotic anyhow. It’s good they didn’t confront me.

But the problem is, since they acted like they might, I no longer feel welcome coming to the library to read picture books. I think they’re going to frown at me when I come in, and look at me like I’m some sort of trouble maker who *gasp!* reads TOO MANY BOOKS OFF THE SHELF. Is it a total pain in the ass that I go into the library and pull that many books off the shelf to read? Completely. But out of the top 10 annoying patron habits, making too much use of the collection seems a minor one…but my negative impression of the children’s wing of my local library now that my librarian friend isn’t there will last a lifetime. I mean, most specifically the lifetimes of these older women, not my own…but still…someone’s lifetime…

A plea for a Teen Picture Book Collection

I think one of the problems with typical cataloging systems is that picture books are all shelved together, placing Eve Bunting’s Smoky Night and One Green Apple next to Hurry! Hurry! This not only causes the awkward moments where parents of a three year old end up with a bedtime story about the LA Riots, but it keeps the book out of the hand of the 9 year old who could appreciate it, since he wouldn’t find himself in the picture book section anywhere near Hurry! Hurry! Libraries don’t shelve Rachel Cohn’s The Steps with her Gingerbread books, since they have separate sections for Tween and Teen books. We should do the same with picture books.

Beyond that, when I’m in charge of a YA department, I’m going to create a YA picture book section. It will look like this. I’m not saying I’m going to steal ALL of these books from the children’s section. Most of them should be owned in two copies so we can keep one in each collection. I believe in the power of Punk Farm with 4 year olds, fully. I just also believe fully in its power to engage 14 year olds. I also believe that with a section for YA picture books, we’d have a space for All My Friends Are Dead and Zombies Hate Stuff, which are CLEARLY picture books written for Teens and/or hipster adults. And while Garmann’s Street/Garmann’s Summer could be shelved in the children’s section, this particular book would find a stronger more receptive audience in Tweens/Teens. If the stack was located close enough to the section that 4th/5th grade boys browse in, it would also actually get Eve Bunting’s picture books into the hands of the audience she intended them for. If we keep them next to the baby books, the right audience will never find them.

I haven’t decided how I feel about libraries that create Toddler, Preschool, and lower grade school picture book collections. (Actually, I’ve only ever seen separate Toddler collections, never lower grade school collections, but I assume SOMEONE has done this.) On one hand, I believe in the power of picture books for 7/8 year olds, and as long as we continue to shelve the books all together we are keeping the higher achieving and/or helicopter parented children away from the books written for them. Also, I believe that library selection should be made easier for parents of toddlers, and that kids should be invited to select their own books, and I want to help parents avoid the argument with a cranky 20 month old who has just grabbed Wolves in the Walls off the shelf randomly and insists that they want to check THIS BOOK OUT. This could have been avoided if we had a toddler section. However, when I look at my shelfari, too many of my books straddle these collections, and you can’t buy two copies of everything that works for 4 to 6 year olds, so it becomes a purchasing problem to divide into too many collections. Also, if you get too prescriptive about the age requirements of a book, it discourages kids from reading below or above their reading levels, like those damn colored dots in the easy reader section. Then there are the problem books, like Where the Wild Things Are, that every parent thinks is a brilliant short book for their 2 year old, but really is best for 1st graders. Obviously I’d shelve it where I think it developmentally fit, but that’s not really an argument that I want to have.

Therefore, in conclusion, I have no idea what I think about Toddler/Preschool/lower grade school separations in the picture book collection, but I dream of Tween/Teen Picture Book collections gracing my shelves…soon…

Great Library Quotes

These are stolen from the signature of someone on the YALSA-bk mailing list, but I wanted to display them somewhere…
The Internet may be the world’s greatest library, but let’s face it – all the books are scattered on the floor.  - D.C. Denison, Boston Globe
Google can bring you back 100,000 answers, a librarian can bring you back the right one.  - Neil Gaiman, author of Sandman and Neverwhere
In the non-stop tsunami of global information, librarians provide us the floaties and teach us how to swim. – Linton Weeks, Washington Post
Does the internet replace the library? Does a calculator replace math class?  Learning how to use the tool is more important than having the tool. –  Dave Peters
The Internet is marvelous, but to claim, as some now do, that it’s making libraries obsolete is as silly as saying shoes have made feet unnecessary. – Mark Herring, American Libraries, 2001

Please describe your experience presenting library storytimes to young children

As a library outreach storytime presenter for both Berwyn Public Library and Oak Park Public Library, I’ve gone into low income preschools, schools, and daycares throughout the communities with themed and more spontaneously decided storytimes, both by myself and with a partner. Some of the classes have been bilingual. I had to keep in contact with the contact at the center and keep the library apprised of where I was and what themes I was working with. I had to plan the themes myself, find or make the felts, and gather all the books together to get them to the right location at the right time. I’ve also done private storytimes for walkers at Room2Play, Kiddie Corner, afterschool storytime/arts and crafts classes for grades K-2 through Beverly Arts Center, and volunteered with Reading to Kids in Los Angeles, reading mostly to 4th graders, but I read to a group of each grade at some point of my time in that program. I’ve never done a lapsit pre-walker storytime for more than one baby at a time (practicing for my class assignment), but when I took Early Literacy during my MLIS, I sat in on two lapsit storytimes and then gave one to my class, with all my classmates holding dolls as their babies. The assignment was to do a storytime for preschoolers, but I’d been doing them professionally for 5 years, so I decided to challenge myself to do a lapsit storytime.

My preschool storytimes usually begin with a rendition of “If You’re Happy and You Know It” called “If You’re Ready for a Story.” The first verse is “clap your hands,” the second applies to the theme somehow, and the third is “peek a boo!,” as it’s adorable for kids that “old” to get to do “peek a boo.” I’ll then do a longer, more challenging book. For example, if this is “Things that go Vroom,” I’d start with Jon Scieszka’s “Smash Crash.” Then I’ll do a poem or a song with action. (Here I do something called “I’m a Little Sportscar.”) Next a shorter book, here “Toot Toot Beep Beep” by Emma Garcia. Next another poem or song, ideally with a felt board or puppet. Here, “The Wheels on the Bus.” Finally I do the shortest book. Here, “School Bus” by Donald Crews. Sometime, if the kids are feeling it, I’ll do a short and funny book that’s very interactive as a fourth book, but not usually. Something like Jan Thomas’s “Can You Make a Scary Face” or “Guess Again!” by Mac Barnett. I end with The Milkshake Song by Anne-Marie Akin, which begins as a torch song and ends up like a kiddie punk song. If you don’t know it, google it. It’s fantastic. The brilliant part about this song is that kids who are challenged by sitting still know that they get this as the reward for sitting still, and the kids who are sad storytime is over get this as a reward for being okay with it ending.

With Toddlers, I’ll cut the longest book of the theme, or completely remake the theme for them. For babies, there are a lot more stretchers and sometimes only one book. For 5-6 year olds, you start with an even more complex book, you cut the baby songs and only do the cool songs, you bring in more comedy if you can, and add a craft that applies to the book you read, ideally, or turn one of the stories into a completely interactive creative drama. (Bringing the story to life with each kid getting to be the protagonist at the same time, blending non-performative improv with storytelling.) I have a website showing all my themes I’ve worked up, but I know you don’t want my name anywhere on these pages, so I won’t put it here, but it’s an evolving website.

Tweens vs Teens

What are the most significant differences you see in working with middle school-aged teens and high school-aged teens in a public library setting? What is your favorite part of working with each age group?

The first part of this question has two answers: the generalizing version and the wibbily version. The wibbily answer is that I know 17 year olds who remind me of 12 year olds, and I’ve taught 12 year olds who seem like they’re ready for college. When Neil Gaiman is asked if Coraline is appropriate for a certain age of child, he always replies that he doesn’t know the child, so he can’t answer the question. This is not only true of book recommendations, and not only true for Neil Gaiman.

But I’m guessing that a sweeping generalization answer will also be useful here, since YA librarians not only deal with individual patrons, but also groups of patrons, in programs, in TAGs, and sitting at tables in the library. Middle School aged teens in groups are more conscious of whether the people around them think something is cool or not than their older peers. Middle School kids might think that something is cool when they’re just talking to you, and might even find YOU cool when it’s just the two of you, but very few things, especially you, will be cool when peer groups are around, unless you’re in a very cultivated TAG situation. Middle School students need to be listened to carefully, to understand the sorts of programming that they’re interested in, since they’ll mostly think their own ideas are cool, but the problem is that they’re not great at suggesting ideas unless they think that everyone else likes the idea. Now, of course, these generalizations better apply to working with kids in schools. When I’ve worked with kids at theaters, a lot of these problems dissolve as the kids begin to trust each other, so, again, a trusting group of middle school kids wouldn’t have these problems as much.

When kids hit high school, they’re much more comfortable expressing what they want to do and what interests them, so letting their ideas help take the lead is even more essential at this age, since when they think something is cool, they’ll get into it at this age. Many teens, especially library (and theater) teens, fully accept their inner geek, especially now that geek is cool. However, some of them are much more jaded at this age. Again, these are sweeping generalizations that might not apply to any groups of teens that would come to Oak Park Library, so I’d be ready to drop any of these assumptions when presented with a group of kids.

What I love about Middle School Teens is watching them discover things for the first time. While all people discover things for the first time, and honestly, there’s nothing cuter than a 4th grader discovering something, when it happens to a middle school teen, you see all the cool veneer break down, and they get puppy dog excited, like a 4th grader. They’re also making connections so quickly, since they know enough things to be able to connect the things to the other things. When I got the cast of Jungle Tales (my loose adaptation of The Jungle Books) to actually read the Kipling, and they saw the lines I’d taken, and found other lines I’d left, they got so excited to see what was on the page coming to life in what they were doing. They even had each other sign their copies of the actual book, taking full ownership over the book as theirs, since they’d played an animal in it. Middle School Teens absolutely OWN the things that they love.

High School Teens still make connections, but they’ve already seen and experienced a lot, so it’s harder to get them that adorkably excited about things. What I love about them is their expertise. I may be a cosplay geek, but I’m Sandman/Doctor Who/True Blood, not Manga/Anime, and there’s nothing better than getting a teenaged expert to explain to me the things that I don’t know yet. They’re just so confident when they are in their zone of expertise, and haven’t yet learned that silly adult social rules that tell you not to go on about topics you know. I love tapping into what teens are into and what they’re good at and learning from them.

Why I Want to Work With Teens

When I was a teen and tween, the library was a safe space. I had other safe spaces too, including the theater, but I knew that I could let my geek flag fly at the library with no judgements. And this was in the era right before YA literature started to heat up. There was no high school collection at Wilmette Public Library when I was a teen, since there wouldn’t be enough books to put in it. I do love young adult books: I love their immediacy of action, I love that they’re written with the hope that teens haven’t already formed preconceptions of what they should or shouldn’t like, what is acceptable or unacceptable reading material, and just appeal to the reader’s need to hear a good story about interesting characters. Of course, some teens have learned what they should and shouldn’t like, whether it be a “highbrow” version of what they should like or a “lowbrow” version of what they should like, and that’s where having a body of literature that has the focus on story and character comes in handy in pushing those teens with society’s rules in their heads past those rules. I love all kinds of YA literature, and I read them as my fun reading during my tenure in Hollywood and in theater, before discovering that my librarian tendencies needed a graduate degree to go along with them.

I come out of theater, having written plays for young people, including tweens and teens, taught, acted with, and directed tweens and teens, and done storytelling workshops with tweens and teens. I love engaging young people with information and story, and the energy that comes off their bodies when they get to engage with new ideas of all sorts. I am energized by being around someone the first time they realize something. I might be bored with 99% of the adaptations of Shakespeare I see done by adults in the theater, but there’s still nothing like watching a young person decipher a famous soliloquy for the first time. Finally, I’ve read the literature about the teen retention problem in libraries. I value libraries, and I know that if don’t value teens as patrons who deserve their own space, collection, and programming, we will push them away once they get their drivers license, and not get them back until they have their own kids. I want to be a teen librarian to be part of the team that bridges the gap to the 20 somethings, keeping libraries relevant, current, and therefore funded.

What is a public library’s role in regards to intellectual freedom for children in the library?

My YA and Children’s Lit professor told us that the secret we’re not supposed to tell people is that youth librarianship is an incredibly subversive act: we’re putting books into the hands of young people, books their parents might not want them to read. The majority of books that are challenged each year, save for a handful of nonfiction sex books, are books for young adults or children. Being able to defend challenges, using reviews, expert opinions, and common sense, is hopefully only a minor amount of time to the job of a young adult librarian, but those are the defining moments of their careers. If books with “subversive” ideas in them are not available to the patrons that they are intended for, then librarianship loses a lot of its meaning. In my intro to library sciences class, I made a subject bibliography for the “Nuclear” Gay Family. It is not meant to be subversive; it is meant to fill patron needs, as more and more families with same sex parents are created. Having these books in a library will be in-keeping with most library mission statements, though they might invite challenges. However, many of the books on the list have been challenged at libraries across the country. I am not simply a walking bibliography and multi-faced on-staff-librarian program-in-waiting. I am the guardian against book challenges. I am the person who can provide access to all information to all patrons, regardless of sex, gender, age, future-or-current sexual orientation, class, race, religion…regardless of what this patron’s parents would rather he or she read. I will walk the line between wanting to please the parent patrons and wanting to open the world up for young patrons.

Please describe how you would conduct a reference interview with a library customer

The most important thing to do in a reference interview, whether with an adult or a child, is to not start walking over to the shelf until you know what the patron is actually asking. In my (limited) experience doing reference, either volunteering at my library, answering questions for preschool teachers at my outreach centers, or helping out parents of my students or my students, I know that the patron rarely forms the question in a clear way the first time. Just last week I was volunteering at my library and got a question from a dad who wanted a story for his 6 year old son for before bed. My first instinct was to walk him over to the chapter book section and possibly give him a classic or modern classic to read, chapter by chapter, at night. But he wasn’t asking for that. When I asked him specifically if he wanted a chapter book or a picture book, he clarified that he actually wanted stories that he could read by himself and TELL to his child at night. It was then that I knew to walk him over to the folk/fairy tale section and found one Yolen book and one scary stories book for him to look through, also telling him about some collections that our library didn’t have that were similar if these failed him. So with questions, you want to know what their question is first. With readers’ advisory, I developed a pretty foolproof intro question when I was working at a writing center in where we had 3 large bookcases of books that I kept circulating among the students. I asked the kids to tell me one book they loved, one book they’ve hated, and one book that they read for school that they liked. Those three questions usually can usually give me the information I need to find the right book for the kid, whether it be within further school-type constraints or for pure pleasure. For the kids who say that they’ve never liked a book, that’s when you ask them what they’re into: what magazines they like, what movies they like, what websites they go to, what tv they like, and what they do for fun. My encyclopedic knowledge of books for ages 0 to 18 comes in handy here, as well, as does the fact that I read, on average, one chapter book a day and about 50 picture books a week, and have been doing this for a few years now.

Summarize your knowledge and experience pertaining to early childhood literacy

When I was beginning as a writing/grammar/reading teacher in 2007, I took two classes at UCLA Extension on Early and PreLiteracy. There I learned about the things we’re only supposed to throw into storytimes occasionally, like phonemes, but also about how to pick out a good picture book to motivate the pre-literate, such as looking for repetitive structure and onomatopoeia. In library school, in addition to my children’s lit class, I took an Early Literacy Class where we looked at the librarian’s role in early literacy, right around the time of the switch between the six pre-literacy skills to the 5 pre-literacy actions. Though Vocabulary, Print Motivation, Print Awareness, Narrative Skills, Letter Knowledge, and Phonological Awareness are useful to teachers and librarians as concepts to think about and intellectualize, they are almost laughable when put on signs at public libraries for the ingesting of parents. It looks like confusing school stuff when those terms are put on a wall. I’m glad I’m aware of them (though obviously I find them more instinctual than needing of memorization), but they’re impractical to truly integrate into every storytime in a busy librarian’s schedule and nearly impossible to teach to the average parent. The actions of Playing, Singing, Talking, Reading, and Writing not only are practical to interject into every storytime and easy to teach to parents, but I didn’t have to google them to make sure I had the words right. I can easily recite these 5, meaning I can easily make sure they’re all present in a good storytime, unlike the 6 skills. (Though I can and will argue that drawing should be the 6th action, since before this list was given to the public, and before I went to library school, a lot of my creative drama classes and storytimes have ended with getting the kids to draw a scene out of one of the stories we played or read, which not only gets them motivated to integrate the text with the images in picture books by getting them to engage with the element of the books that they can recreate, but also gets them using a crayon against paper, creating symbols, which prepares them for writing. But that’s just my opinion.)

Tell us about your experience working with children and teens

I have been an afterschool teacher, an inschool teaching artist, a private tutor, a private teacher for arts centers, and I’ve worked both for libraries doing storytimes and as a library program. Breaking down what I’ve done by age, I’ve done walker storytimes and mommy and me classes. I’ve done a mixed storytime/drama class for ages 3-4. I’ve done straight storytimes for toddlers, preschoolers, and kindergarteners for libraries. I’ve done drama/movement/music class for ages 4-5. I’ve done a mixed storytime, drama, arts and crafts class for K-2. I’ve done creative drama/play adaptation for K-3. I’ve directed plays with casts ages 4-15. I’ve taught drama/improv to a mixed class of 1st to 5th. I’ve taught improv and drama to 3rd through 5th. I’ve taught writing, grammar, and environmental issues for 2nd to 4th, 4th through 6th, and 6th through 8th. I’ve taught playwriting for 4th through 8th. I’ve taught drama/creative drama to 4th through 8th. I taught a 2 drama and writing week camp with an age range of 6 1/2 to 14 year olds. I’ve volunteered teaching screenwriting to 4th graders. I’ve volunteered doing storytime and craft for each grade from K to 5. I’ve taught mixed media art to a mix of 6 to 14 year olds at another camp. I’ve taught storytelling and improv to a group of former street teens. I’ve done storytelling for ages 0 to 90s. I worked with an ESL 15 year old, working on his grammar and reading skills. I’ve been a private writing coach for a teen, starting in 7th grade and still going now that he’s almost 15. I’ve taught classes to 1 child, 3 children, 5 children, 12 children, 20, and done storytimes to 40 at a time. I’ve also been a storyteller in front of a full auditorium. I’m also a beloved babysitter for my friends’ kids, and a lot of my former students frequently email me to keep me aware of what they’re up to. I can provide some great teenaged references, if you’d like.